we can sin but the Church can't the Spiritrual Churnch ( the body of Christ can't sin ) but the catholic or any others church will fall in sin

Paul conmended us to Cut off those that commit sins or remain life style in sinful as Catholic Priests who molesters childrens,


Jesus also Said: if your hand do sin cut it off, if your eye sin pull it out so that way you can go heaven rather have two hand go hell, yes we all sinners but before God accepted us we must be clean by the blood of Jesus, so that we can be Body of Christ santifice and Holy, sin just like cancer in our body, when we have it we must cutt it off from our body or it will destroy us! the Body of Christ the Church can't be sin??

　

Hi,

Thanks for the response.

 

 

We; all Catholics, ARE the "body of Christ" and yes we can and do sin as sinning is the "natural condition" of all humanity.

 

 

The "unnatural condition then is to, with God's grace AVOID sin. Possible only with God’s help and our determination. Even with grace; “natural men” often fall into some level of sin.

1John.1 Verses 8 to 10

"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

1John.5 Verses 16 to 17

"If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal.

John.20 Verses 20 to 23

" When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained"

I don’t recall where Paul advises us to “cut [ourselves from] off” sinners. To not associate with them unnecessarily- socially perhaps? But Christ Himself tells us:

Matt.9:12- 13 “But when he heard it, he said, "Those who are well have no need [without sin] of a physician, but those who are sick [sinners]” “Go and learn what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.' For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners."

Mark.2: 17 “And when Jesus heard it, he said to them, "Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick; I came not to call the righteous, but sinners."

Certainly these priest are EVIL-sinners. But are they any worse than ones who has a abortion; or denies God; or does not give to God his Just Worship? NOT in God’s eye.

Matt.7: 1 "Judge not, that you be not judged” and this: John.7: 24 “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

The passages you quote from Paul to “cut off this or that” ARE NOT LITERAL. What they teach is our GRAVE-moral obligation to AVOID “the near occasion and temptation to sin.” THAT my friend is the lesson being taught here.

How anyone is “cleaned by the Blood of Christ” is these day’s seemingly a matter of personal choice. BUT my friend as the passages I shared above from First John, and John 20: that is NOT God’s way; and THERFORE the ONLY way it actually is going to happen. Jesus Instituted the Catholic Sacrament of Confession for this very reason; and it remains the ONLY acceptable manner [other than initial Baptism, which removes all PRIOR sins.]

I DID say “the Church” meaning the Catholic Church CANNOT sin as an absolute impossibility. I did NOT say “the body of Christ” cannot nor does not sin.

God Bless you,

pat

From: LEIN TRINH <lientcnguyen@...>
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we can sin but the Church can't the Spiritrual Churnch ( thebody of Christ can't sin ) but the catholic or any others church will fall in sin, Paul conmended us to Cut off those that commit sins or remain life style in sinful as Catholic Priests who molesters childrens, Jesus also Said: if your hand do sin cut it off, if your eye sin pull it out so that way you can go heaven rather  have two hand go hell, yes we all sinners but before God accepted us we must be clean by the blood of Jesus, so that we can be Body of Christ santifice and Holy, sin just like cancer in our body, when we have it we must cutt it off from our body or it will destroy us! the Body of Christ the Church can't be sin??